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Posted by: James 7/28/2006 8:35 AM

I subscribe to a local beer e-newsletter that is sent out daily about local brew stories/issues/conversations.  A majority of today’s post is actually part of the email that came out a few weeks ago, as it summarizes a ridiculous situation that is so symptomatic of government taking action against something that makes no sense for them to intervene in.  It doesn’t help that in the south alcohol is still demonized, yet other vices are sanctioned and deemed okay.   And even worse is that beer is not given the same playing field as wine and liquor are in the state.


Terrapin Beer Company is an Athens-based brewery that makes a fantastic selection of beers.  You’ll be amazed at the stupid issues they’ve encountered, simply by telling others of upcoming events.  Will beer-based events become underground events in Georgia, becoming as taboo as filming a snuff movie or making crystal meth?  Read the following email from them and I'll let you decide whether common sense or idiocy is the theme here.

 

* UPCOMING EVENTS (Yeah, Right!)
This newsletter will no longer be sent out on a monthly basis. We will be sending the Terrapin Times out quarterly from this point forward. So what does that have to do with UPCOMING EVENTS?

Well, it seems the State of Georgia has decided that it is against the law for us to tell anyone about any promotional events that we are doing. In fact Terrapin recently received a citation and is being fined for doing just that. Seriously. As hard as it may be to believe, Terrapin is being fined for listing upcoming promotions on our website.

We were also told that if someone calls us on the phone wanting to know where to find Terrapin, we are not allowed to tell them a specific retail account. We are only allowed to say, "Any package store in Athens should have our beer" or "Terrapin is in most good beer bars in your area". We are not even allowed to tell you about any upcoming beer festivals we may be attending.

So how are we supposed to promote Terrapin and actually try to grow our business? According to the State of Georgia we aren't. We must sit back and hope you somehow find us. Following State guidelines here is what our current event listings would look like:

- --Terrapin is going to be at a bar in Cumming on Monday July 10th, Snellville on Tuesday July 11th, and Roswell on Wednesday July 12th to promote the All American Imperial Pilsner.

- --Every Thursday in July we are doing an All American Imperial Pilsner pint night at a chain of beer bars throughout Atlanta. Buy a beer and keep the glass.

Honestly those listings seem pretty pointless so we just aren't going to do them any more. If we continue to list our promotions the State of GA would actually go so far as to revoke our license and put us out of business. So all we can say is please continue to visit your local taverns and hopefully we will see you there some time.


* OTHER STUPID RULES
CAVEAT: John Cochran is writing this and is expressing personal opinions that in no way reflect the views of Terrapin Beer Company. Or maybe it does. You decide.

So what other rules are breweries in GA hamstrung by?

How about the fact that when a Terrapin rep goes into a bar to attempt to convince them to carry Terrapin it is against the law for us to give them a sample? Yet it is perfectly legal for wine and liquor salespeople to leave samples.

How about the fact that as brewery reps if we walk into a package store and the shelf is empty we are not allowed to take a case from the back of the store and put it on the shelf?

How about the fact that we are prohibited from pouring our own beer at a beer festival? If a volunteer has to take a bathroom break we can only stand there and tell customers, "Sorry, you have to wait. I'm not allowed to pour the beer because I work for the company that made it."

How about the fact that we are not allowed to give anything of "value" to a retailer? That means we can not give pint glasses to a bar. They have to buy them. That means we can not give t-shirts to the staff of a restaurant. The owner has to purchase them. And of course this means we can not list promotional events on our website.

How about the fact that when breweries give tours they are not allowed in any way to sell growlers, 6-packs or kegs to anyone visiting the brewery? We are only allowed to give free samples. After all, why would we actually want the right to sell our product to the hundred or so customers that are standing in front of us at the brewery?

That starts to get into the three tier distribution system and how it works. We will leave that one alone as it is a huge can of worms. Just ask Crawford Moran, former owner of Dogwood Brewing about it.  He claims it put him out of business.


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Will the last one out please turn off the lights.....    By Erich on 7/28/2006 9:40 AM
Maybe this Beer company should pack up and move out of GA.....they can call the moving Co. your Mother-in-law used :D

Re: You can make it. It's just that you can't tell anyone about it.    By Ratt on 7/28/2006 12:54 PM
That is ridiculous. Here in central Florida, I learned one Sunday morning that there's an antiquated but enforced law that doesn't allow stores to sell alcohol before noon. So I had to stand by the cashier from 11:57 til the magic hour hit before she could scan my beer (along with about $100 worth of other groceries).

Re: You can make it. It's just that you can't tell anyone about it.    By James on 7/28/2006 1:07 PM
Here in Georgia you can't buy alcohol in stores AT ALL on Sundays, yet you can purchase it at a bar or restaurant. Such random "blue laws" show how ridiculous special interests can interfere with our daily lives.

Re: You can make it at home in a few weeks.    By Syl on 7/28/2006 1:12 PM
Washington DC is similar and there are still dry counties in Arkansas...while on the other side of the shoals in Missoura (on Sundays) - only warm beer (nothing from the coolers) sold, only in the afternoon, only 3.2%, only from the separate inventory (in the shed out back, you out-of-state-lush). Louisville no sales until 1:00.
But what UP with Georgia - guess beer was an importation from the north g'damn sypathizin' yankee ale-swiller. They'd like you to drink GA moonshine and support that local black market.

Re: You can make it. It's just that you can't tell anyone about it.    By dhs on 7/29/2006 2:14 PM
Yeah, the GA liquor laws suck. You can't buy alcohol after 11:45 PM Mon - Sat at a grocery store or package store in GA. In the city of Atlanta, you can buy 24 hours/day. Except Sunday.

When it comes to Sunday, that's where things are all fucked up. You can buy by the drink on Sunday at a "restaurant". In other words, they have to make 50%+ of their dollar volume on Sundays on food. if you're a bar and don't meet that mark, no Sunday sales for you.

Georgia sucks.

Re: You can make it. It's just that you can't tell anyone about it.    By dhs on 7/29/2006 2:17 PM
Ohh, and you can't buy a drink on Sunday until 12:30. All the Christians have to get out of church first so they can go get sloppy-ass drunk at their local bar. Er. Restaurant.

Re: It's just that no one really knows    By Syl on 7/30/2006 4:56 PM
And just what is a 'package store' to the rest of the nation? A corner or convenience store....?

Re: You can make it. It's just that you can't tell anyone about it.    By Oregon Loves Beer Drinkers on 7/30/2006 5:36 PM
I guess I will add that to my list of reasons NOT to live in GA. This week I went to the Deschutes Brewery in Bend, Oregon because I had a coupon for a free growler. (Beer not included) They had 16 house beers on tap. I sampled 12 of them. All were quite good. I filled my growler with their 18th Anniv. Pilsner. Tasty! This weekend was also the summer Brewfest on the Riverfront. The Gov. was on had to tap the ceremonial keg. A little differnt than in GA.

Re: You can make it. It's just that you can't tell anyone about it.    By James on 7/30/2006 8:02 PM
Syl, a "package store" here is a liquor/beer/wine store. You can get beer or wine in a grocery store but not liquor. In Illinois, they're "liquor stores" and in Michigan they are "party stores" - a much more apt title.

Re: You can make it. It's just that you can't tell anyone about it.    By dhs on 7/31/2006 8:13 AM
Funny story about the package store.

When I moved to GA 13 years ago I was 19 and knew nothing of a "package store". I had always called it a liquor store. All the better if they didn't ID me.

I needed to send a package. I went to the package store. Tower Package on Druid Hills Road if my memory isn't failing me yet. I couldn't figure out why a shipping store (a la the UPS Store) needed to be so damn big. Clearly I didn't send anything that day. I was highly confused by the terminology.

Do they call it a package store because you drink your shitty beer/Mad Dog 20/20 out of a brown paper bag?

Re: You can make it. It's just that you can't tell anyone about it.    By Kris on 7/31/2006 2:40 PM
Hey James...(sigh)...out here in Oklahoma, it seems the kings of liquor/wine rule the roost as well. As you know from our previous conversations regarding the rather scant beer selection here in Altus, not only is there little or no selection, but the State of OK has deemed that the residents here can only tolerate a 3.2% maximum alcoholic content beer. However, there is a caveat in that as I recently saw a local liquor store add which proudly proclaimed "...we don't do 3 point 2". Seeing this, I assumed that this meant they carried the more expensive German/British/European higher gravity/alcohol beers. Nope...not even. After visiting said local liquor store, they were carrying the same crappy selection domestic beers with an alcohol content of...(get this)...6%!!! All for the low price of around $11.00 per six pack! (not a typo) After discussing this with the liquor store owner, it appears that in the state of Oklahoma, all liquor/wine/beer over 3.2% distributed in the state come through ONE distributor. This one distributor has the monopoly on setting the price for anything over 3.2%. You can buy beer in a convenience store at normal prices...but only at 3.2%. According to the liquor store owner, the Christians of Oklahoma have come to the conclusion that beer is the elixir of Satan and therefore must be watered-down to a point that the end result is just that...water.

Re: They ain't the boss o' me.    By Of course... on 8/2/2006 11:10 AM
...damn the Christians. And Puritans. The Pilgrims - the lot of them. God *created* fermentation.

Re: You can't make it but you can sell it.    By DCampbell on 6/30/2007 10:19 AM
I used to live in Atlanta and had a friend there that opened the first brewpub and resturaunt in Atlanta. He was way ahead of his time. It was between 1985-1988. I cannot remember the exact date and I think the name was "Highlands Brewing Company". He started out as a homebrewing and opened it with several friends.

The place was jammin' but they final closed the doors. They said it was because of the reopening of Underground Atlanta. It had a real cool large murial on the back wall of a brewer standing on a ladder doing something over either the brew kettle or mash tung - of course I didn't know what either of those terms meant at the time. They couldn't brew beer there because of the GA laws so they had it contract brewed in New Orleans and shipped in. That place changed my beer taste buds into favoring craft beers. I never went back.

James, I found your blog through a mutual friend - John Murphy.


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