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Posted by: James 3/28/2007 5:49 PM

Why does TV continue to fight the DVR?  Thankfully most DVR are able to adjust to the fucktastic practice that most networks use in primetime to stretch their shows a few minutes before or after their allotted times.  But they just won’t give up when it comes to trying to outsmart the DVR user like me who refuses to watch commercials for previously recorded shows.  Additional commercial breaks have seeped into most shows now.  In fact, some hour-long dramas now have 6 commercial breaks dispersed throughout.  The total amount of advertising time is still the same (about 16 minutes per 60 minute episode) but the uneven break times they incorporate must be insanely annoying to suckers, I mean, people, who still watch these shows live.

 

Comedy Central is one of the more annoying stations and always has been in terms of commercial breaks.  They were one of the first to have 3 full commercial breaks for a 30 minute episode.  I’m not sure how long this has been going on, but the new South Park season now begins with the theme song and then goes straight into a full commercial break.  At least with most shows, you’ll get at least a 2 or 3 minute teaser segment to at least whet your appetite for the episode.

 

On a side note, non-premium-channel TV obviously has to have tamer content but I’ve had to add some Quality Kills to my list of original deaths.  Usually these happen in movies where there is more room for imagination but two TV shows this year have straddled the line.  First, Lost had a sweet death a few weeks ago where the village that houses the “others” is protected by these giant sonic barriers.  One guy gets pushed into the barrier and blood starts squirting out of both his ears while foaming at the mouth.  This definitely goes into the Quality Kill category.

 

Next up was the opening episode of ‘24’ this season where Jack Bauer escapes captivity by biting into a guy’s neck and ripping out a mouthful of flesh and arteries.  With the amount of blood spewing everywhere and Jack spitting out a pound of flesh onto the ground, this also qualifies as a Quality Kill.  I’m sure there are many other examples on shows that I don’t watch which would also be lumped into this category.

 

I’m eager with anticipation of a new season of The Shield, which is hands-down the best cop show ever.  Gritty, raw, profane, border-pushing cops who have had there share of giving and witnessing Quality Kills.  One of the more memorable scenes from a previous season which wasn’t a Quality Kill but definitely fell into the Quality Torture category was when Vic, the lead cop, pushed a drug dealer’s face onto a hot electric stove range, scarring him permanently.  When you have permanent griddle marks on your face and your skin smells like a Flesh Panini, you know it’s not going to be one of your better days.

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Re: Embrace the DVR, Hollywood    By KB's on 3/28/2007 6:39 PM
For those of you who don't know, there is a little Tivo hack that allows the jump forward button to jump forward in 30 second increments. Rather convenient that commercials typically show up in 30 second incremements. Rather than fast forwarding and rewinding just hit the button 6 times or so and the show is back.

While watching a recording show press the following series of buttons on the remote:
Select - Play - Select - 3 - 0 - Select
Make sure the Tivo does its bing bing bing and you now have 30 second skip. Take note, if you lose power to the unit, you will have to re-do this.


Best suicide moment on TV is the hanging seen on Sopranos Season 6 opener.


Re: Embrace the DVR, Hollywood    By James on 3/29/2007 10:05 AM
KB, you're right about the hack. I'm surprised Tivo hasn't tried to stop that with future patches. When I had the Dish Network DVR, they had a 30-second fast forward button and I almost wore that button out. My Comcast DVR doesn't have a skip button, only 4 fast forward speeds. But as long as I don't have to watch live TV, I'm fine with that. But now that I think about it, I'm gonna check online for any hack codes that might be out there for Comcast.

Yes, the hanging scene in Sopranos was so scary good. I've never seen a real hanging before, but that one sure seemed to be the most realistic and unglamorous.

Re: Embrace the DVR, Hollywood    By Meatball on 3/29/2007 12:28 PM
All you Tivo users are sheep. ReplayTV was where it was at. :) They were the Apple to Tivo's Microsoft. *sigh*

Anyways ... damnit, Shield can't start soon enough. I put the grenade-in-the-car as a "quality kill". Just cause it was so damn unexpected.

You gonna kill a friend, do it with a gun and at least let him know you're coming. But dropping a grenade into a guy's car while he's admiring his deli-rific sandwich? Brutal. Quality.

Last night's live-burial on Lost qualifies as a quality-kill too.

(oops, was there supposed to be a _spoiler-alert_ there in case James hadn't watched that yet?)

Re: Embrace the DVR, Hollywood    By James on 3/29/2007 12:52 PM
THANKFULLY I watch Lost the same night because we talk about it at work. Otherwise there would have been a death at Turner today. :)

I watch pre-recorded stuff until about 10:20 and then delve into Lost without seeing a single commercial.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but basically Replay TV was the dual tuner technology, right? Comcast's HD DVR that I have can record 2 shows and watch a 3rd at the same time.

Re: Hollywood is a dumb ass    By Syl on 3/29/2007 1:19 PM
Yes Replay was first and finest, but we used the UltimateTV and it was superior to Replay while it lasted. The old Panasonic VCRs also had a 1 minute button advance for the tape to um, well, advance one minute. It was fantastic for radio tape (broadcast commercial) manual scanning.

So, as an official tightwad I'm using Netflix to watch the Sopranos now, you Jerks, I'm only up to season 3. Shhhhh!

The Shield is a great show. Is 'Rescue Me' coming back,too? - also a truly great show.

Re: Embrace the DVR, Hollywood    By Meatballiness on 3/29/2007 3:49 PM
No ... back in the day, the only two serious choices was ReplayTV and Tivo. ReplayTV's big claim to fame was that they had a "skip commercials" button .. did more than just the 30 second skip. They came under pressure and lawsuits and for their last model series they replaced it with a "skip 30 seconds" button.

HOWEVER

The "skip 30 seconds" actually is a hybrid. It'll skip the 30 seconds but if it comes to the break between commercial and show, it'll stop at the show beginning instead of going into it. So basically I just have to tap the "skip 30 seconds" button a few times to get through all the commercials and it lands me on the show.

ReplayTV got out of the hardware business last year but I'm still holding onto my box until they pry it out of my dead hands.

(also, given the open-source style of it's application, Replay was the first box that had a dearth of 3rd party applications associated with it ... i had my computer hooked into the replay over the wireless and would download the mpeg streams as they'd record and reformat them to an ipod goodness)

Re: Embrace the DVR, Hollywood    By milo on 3/29/2007 10:43 PM
Only experience with Tivo and Ultimate. Ultimatetv wins hands down in my house. Wish I had it back. Still have the tuner, just not hooked up. The Ultimate site is about 4 years old now, never updated!

Re: Embrace the DVR, Hollywood    By Milo on 3/29/2007 10:46 PM
I forgot about the "back in time" button, do you have that Tivo boy! I could come home up to 20 min into a show and then hit record and somehow, that 20 minutes would be on the hard drive. it did not matter what channel, tuner could be on 2 or even off, then switched to the correct channel and it would work every time! Scary

Re: Embrace the DVR, Hollywood    By KB's on 3/30/2007 11:13 AM
Interesting story about the ReplayTV. It is now owned by D&M holdings which owns a lot of home electronics companies. I worked on the home system for one of the co-owners of D&M who was in charge of the ReplayTV division. Once he bought the company, which was about to go bankrupt because of too many lawsuits from Hollywood for their commercial skip feature, his first order of business was to get rid of the commercial skip. With that accomplished and the bad timing of lawsuits, TIVO was allowed to take market share. Now, not many people think about the ReplayTV option anymore and it basically comes down to a feature that most people would love to have.

Hollywood - so dumb ass, still!    By Syl on 3/30/2007 2:07 PM
The Ultimate - talk about not supported :¬) - they're so close to all gone that the last time one needed service we simply purchased a refurbished unit from them - and sent them our old one for the price. I felt lucky to have that option!

And it was more along the lines of an add in to existing program delivery - no subscription service or fees Now officially calling myself a dork, but still not even close in size or stature to James (just let me roll up for the :30 work-around post...) or KB!

The day the mute button disappears... oh I don't know, I'll probably have to kill some people. Some more people.


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