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Está lloviendo los gatos y los perros, senor
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| Posted by: James |
8/9/2006 11:21 PM |
I just finished watching a show on CBS tonight and while I’m not sure if other channels are doing this yet, what I saw was a first for me. A Severe Thunderstorm Warning tickertape scrawled on the bottom of my screen. Instead of the text being repeated twice, the second time the message came around it was shown in Spanish. I said out loud – “Wow”. I think the tipping point has officially occurred.
Regardless of what you think of our current immigration laws and how legal and illegal residents conduct their business within our borders, the reality is that our children will have to be bilingual – particularly in Spanish and English. The actuality of our southern neighbors (not just Mexico) integrating into our society has reached critical mass. Whether you like it or not, Spanish will be a second official language of our country within our children’s lifetimes.
Being bilingual isn’t a bad thing. Most non-English speaking countries teach their children English or other important languages as Spanish or French so why not us? Switzerland has 4 official languages. The last time I checked, civil war hadn’t uprooted their country over multiculturalism. Canada, while culturally fractured by the English-speaking and French-speaking Quebecers, still manages to get along just fine with 2 languages. In fact, they could unofficially have 2 additional official languages with the influx of Japanese and Chinese residents the past few decades.
I will admit to one pet peeve though. Personally, were I to live in another country that didn’t speak English, I would do everything I could to assimilate into that culture. I wouldn’t speak English loudly on a bus or demand an English-only radio or TV station. I would respect the culture of the country I’m in. But with the ever-shrinking globe, thanks to technology in every aspect of our lives, countries will have to find other ways to carve out their identities.
America, Spanish is here to stay. Yes, this is old news in places like California and Arizona and other pockets of the country, but now it’s infiltrating all parts of America. Will St Paul, Minnesota be renamed San Paulo? Probably not, but if the Mall of America doesn’t have driving instructions in Spanish on their website yet, they need to do it soon. |
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Re: Está lloviendo los gatos y los perros, senor |
By Jimbo on
8/10/2006 10:14 AM |
| Sad, but true... here in NYC everything seems to be in Espanol 1st, English 2nd... |
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By KB's on
8/10/2006 10:37 AM |
| Its raining cats and dogs, senor??? Ha... I'm impressed, your love for cats is bilingual. |
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Re: Está lloviendo los gatos y los perros, senor |
By Erich on
8/10/2006 10:47 AM |
| Yo Quiero Comer Ropa Inerior De tu'! |
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By KB's on
8/10/2006 11:14 AM |
| Quiero comer su pijama de gatos |
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By Donna on
8/10/2006 11:54 AM |
Having lived in a foriegn country for several years I would witness the following in local shops:
When an English-only speaking individual would approach the bread counter to ask a question about said product to a German only speaking individual, the German speaking individual would ask for clarification which resulting in the Englishing speaking individual raising their voice in order for them to be heard. I wanted to say, "YOU IDIOT!!! You are yelling in English. No matter how LOUD you speak the person does not and will not understand what is being said." Over and over I would witness Americans visiting in a foriegn country and see them get frustrated that English was not understood. Very arrogant in my opinion.
On the flip side. Being in America, English is the official language. This nation was established on the grounds of being a 'melting pot', therefore, adopting multiple languages to help all of us get along in closer harmony isn't unreasonable. However, it should not be mandated. The education system is already struggling with funding, paying teachers, etc. We can not seem to master educating Americans on reading and writing one language. Introducing multiple official languages is not something that will be implemented any time soon due to our lame education system. I think it will be in the generation of our children's children before our country will figure out how to make this work. Right now, adding bilingual capabilities to advertisements and annoucements are for marketing purposes. Too bad we are doing this backwards... market in languages we haven't officially adopted. Leave it to the money makers...
Not to be mistaken with my appreciation for the fact that companies are reaching out to the non-English speaking people that currently live in our country. Every person contributes to our ecomony and well-being. But for now, promote education in what has been the offical language of our nation for over three centuries. . .
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By Syl on
8/10/2006 11:57 AM |
Did you realize that "they"'ve already infiltrated major league baseball - AND the coaches. It's still the fault of the British (first) and Irish (as they poured in en masse, fellow our-language speakers). Do the old folks in Mexico complain of the infiltration of American into their country - sure they do! If Spain had secured that cold country to the north we'd probably be bi-lingual Spanish into Kansas right now...instead of in a few decades. Don't worry about the Great Mall they probably have an all Spanish site that you can't find, ha! And - many Central American immigrants...let's just say we have meddled in other country's affairs involving men such as Manuel Noriega.
Who is actually 'demanding' Spanish broadcasts - the bi-lingual people with their massive control of the media? No James, it's the ADVERTISERS that demand to reach a huge target market more directly than they have in the past, and they're getting better at it, too. pinche guey. |
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By Tim V. on
8/10/2006 12:25 PM |
I think Pablo is the Spanish equivalent to Paul. Nice of you to just stereotypically drop the vowel on the end of the English word/name, James-o.
And any red-blooded male who has watched more that 10 minutes of 'Univision', will have no problem whatsoever with the Spanish "infiltration". That's some good TV, if you know what I mean..... |
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By Meatball on
8/10/2006 12:59 PM |
"Over and over I would witness Americans visiting in a foriegn country and see them get frustrated that English was not understood. "
Donna, I have to object to this. Or at least offer a counterpoint. During the many years I lived in Germany, I NEVER saw this. Every American I travelled with would always make an attempt to speak the host language. Every tourist I ever saw on the streets of the Benelux, France or Deutschland ... I never saw one rude American tourist. |
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By James on
8/10/2006 1:16 PM |
| Donna, your quote "marketing purposes to...market in languages we haven't officially adopteded" is spot-on. Great point. Tim, I LOVE the shows on Univision and the other Spanish channels becase they have muy fantastico T&A even on the kids shows!!! As for Paulo versus Pablo, I wrote this at 11:15 on a worknight so the brain wasn't functioning on all gears. :) My Mexican in-laws would be disappointed. |
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By Donna Refried on
8/10/2006 3:28 PM |
| Meatball, I was surrounded by Army enlisted personnel, if that helps paint a better picture of personal demeanor. I know I will get pounded for stereotyping so let me caveat that statement by saying, ‘...in my experience, not all Army enlisted personnel behaved poorly…..’ It was just sad that I witnessed so many of these conversations between visiting Americans and the local nationals. |
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By Guess Who on
8/10/2006 3:29 PM |
James is still a Dork-o. |
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Re: el 'senor' |
By Oh, so helpful on
8/10/2006 4:03 PM |
| On many keyboards if you push and hold down ALT and type 164 when you release the keys a lower case 'n' with a tilde above it will appear. |
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By One Up on
8/10/2006 5:44 PM |
| El amperio hora Google traduce es el mejor… |
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Re: Está lloviendo los gatos y los perros, senor |
By Uno para arriba on
8/10/2006 5:47 PM |
| Y James sigue siendo un Dork-o |
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Re: Está lloviendo los gatos y los perros, senor |
By Donna Wrote on
8/10/2006 5:55 PM |
| Nope Donna, that makes sense. I don't mind the stereotyping ... I was surrounded with Air Force personnel (50% officer, 50% enlisted) .. so that explains both views. :) |
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By Ratt on
8/11/2006 2:33 AM |
| Bilingual, fine...but what bugs the crap out of me is when I visit my Dad in Lil Havana (Miami), and wherever you go, people automatically assume you speak Spanish. Try to order Chinese food or pizza and you have to tell them, "No, no, English, English." Sorry, but this is still America...my great-grandparents didn't come over here and expect everyone to learn their language -- they learned English and it shouldn't be any different for anyone else. |
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By Syl on
8/11/2006 11:12 AM |
Your grandparents didn't have the same opportunity to land in an area where everyone already spoke their native language everyday and to everyone. That is something that has changed over the last few hundred years.
Bugging me much more is the need to specifically request your hideous automatic operator speak the common language of the country. That should not have to be chosen, that should be the norm. |
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By Rich on
8/11/2006 9:00 PM |
| Donna & Ratt, spot on! English is our language. Right or wrong, history is written by the victors. Our ancestors had to assimilate in ways today's "immigrants" couldn't begin to imagine. And I'm sorry James, but I refuse to give in and just accept a bi-lingual country. You know my viewpoint. Or you will, after attending the re-education center at my compound. |
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By Syl on
8/15/2006 11:09 AM |
| And yet the rest of the world has adopted English as their second language... suppose that was pretty much at gunpoint, too - back in the day. |
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