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Posted by: James 11/19/2007 12:28 PM

OK, English majors, answer this one.  Let’s say a celebrity is being interviewed and one of the questions refers to the interviewee by their full name.  Example – Brad Pitt, being interviewed by one of those artificial celebrity shows is asked the question “So where does Brad Pitt fit into this picture?” or “What does a Brad Pitt do for fun?”  If Brad is referring to himself, obviously it is referred to as speaking in Third Person.  But if the target of the conversation is referred to by their full name, is this considered Third Person also or is it a different ‘Person’ conversation?  Is it Second Person (replacing “You” with the interviewee’s full name)?  Since Fourth Person is taken (using a phrase like “…one would think…”), is there a Fifth Person category or is something like this undefined?

 

Maybe it’s just me, but it seems the Third Person references have exploded as media coverage of uneducated and ego-filled athletes take center stage on television.  Without any empirical evidence to back it up, I’ll nominate Rickey Henderson as a modern day athlete who took using the Third Person reference to a whole new level.  Others have followed and perfected the art of Third Personitis, but Rickey was an original. 

 

I think the next level that egocentric athletes will climb to is to add “The” in front of their first name.  Yes, The Rock already has that moniker but since it’s wrestling, he gets a pass.  It’s the guys not in theater who will one day refer to themselves as “The Barry” or “The Dave” and we won’t bat an eye at the ludicrousness of it all, having been bombarded with egocentric quotes far too many times before this.

 

Since I’m rambling all over the place today, let’s add one more Thought Smore to the brain campfire.  Is there a particular reason why age is always attached to any article about actors and athletes?  I can maybe understand how it is relevant to athletics, as certain feats are amazing given a person’s youth or elderliness.  But why actors?  Seeing that none of them use their real names, why are (supposed) real ages shown in almost every article you see?

 

I guess there are times when we are amazed at how young Dakota Fanning is or the age Kirsten Dunst appeared in Interview With A Vampire (11) or how Jack Nicholson keeps on keeping on.  I guess it hits closer to home now that “up and coming” actors/actresses are half my age or a “seasoned veteran of 20 films” is only a year older than me. 

 

In keeping an uncharacteristically positive outlook on things, I guess I really shouldn’t feel old until I stop seeing obituaries for people in my age range that include phrases such as “he died far too young” or “this was an unexpected tragedy for someone her age”.  It’s not until you see your peer group get lauded with phrases such as “He lived a full life, with 5 great grandchildren and a fully functioning bladder until just a few months ago” that it’s time to make sure your will is current.

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Re: Beyond the Third Person    By Erich on 11/19/2007 1:02 PM
So, what does James Kirkpatrick blog about when he has already complained about everything else on the planet? ;)

Re: Beyond the Third Person    By James on 11/19/2007 2:22 PM
Every few months, The Erich claims The James is once again out of ideas.

Re: Beyond the Third Person    By Erich on 11/19/2007 2:30 PM
And you always surprise me by dredging something else out of the bottom of the barrel. Tomorrow - Springy Door stops vs. solid ones.

Re: Beyond the Third Person    By James on 11/19/2007 2:38 PM
OK, I'll bite, but only as a Comment and not a blog entry. :) Everyone knows that springy door stops, while fun to twang, aren't as effective as a solid door stop. But on the other hand, springy door stops don't require you to bend over to open/shut a door. Solid ones are less of a choking hazard for kids compared to the springy ones which are easily detachable. Solid ones look out of place in a home though - they seem more appropriate for work and school doors.

Re: Beyond the Third Person    By Meatball on 11/19/2007 3:43 PM
The Meatball is waiting on the enthralling dicsussion of fast food line etiquette.

Re: Beyond the Third Person    By James on 11/19/2007 4:02 PM
Do you count places such as Wendy's where there is a "snake" line setup, thus ensuring an even distribution of customers to employees at the counter? This is much appreciated when someone who is ordering for 10 is right in front of you. If you're stuck in a normal line, good luck ever getting served behind a family of 8.

Re: Beyond the Third Person    By KB's on 11/19/2007 4:40 PM
Since "The James" is on a roll. What does he think of people that don't have enough money when it is time to pay and the impeding slowness that is about to happen?

Re: Beyond the Third Person    By James on 11/19/2007 4:45 PM
KB, please refer to http://kirkpatrick.daktarbi.com/direct_link.cfm?bid=290C6544-6BE8-440D-9434496083C7BA8E

Re: Beyond the Third Person    By The General on 11/20/2007 6:55 PM
The General says: This is Celebrity Third Person. The use of it goes along with that permanently amused smirk for photographers, and is a sure sign that the celebrity is now damned, and will stop doing creative work and start saving the world by having photo-ops with world leaders and<br>starving children.

Somewhere ---- beyond the sea....    By Syl on 11/21/2007 10:46 AM
Rickey had nothing on Bob Dole. Seventy two year old Bob Dole knew when to refer to Bob Dole as the man and what Bob Dole was thinking at the time...Perhaps the higher level of celebrity means another layer of naming convention. Still, she could have been The Cher for years without complaint. Plus (excepting Rickey) you must have a short handle to do this, preferably a single syllable - first and last. <br><br>Entertainers and athletes, those are the people in the news who are referenced with their age. And the dead. P.S. James - your will should be set right now. (!!) Not like my mother (please) who made her last will and testament three days before I was born (legally referring to unborn me as the "Subsequent Issue") and that's the document we had to use 40+ years later. As the youngest, I now have a new, hard-to-achieve, later-in-life nickname amongst my siblings. Thanks mom - nice parting shot... [heart shape grin]<br><br>

Beyond acceptable    By Syl on 11/21/2007 10:49 AM
Lay off The ROCK, Duane is so cool. He's the greatest -- funny and smart (ass) in interviews. Mmmmm, the rock. I understand he can cook, too!


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