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Posted by: James 2/28/2008 12:40 PM

It can be argued either way that we have progressed or regressed when it comes to how people dress at work.  Before I delve into this, let’s discuss a key overriding factor to all of this.  Regardless of how one dresses, it’s your work output and quality that counts the most.  Someone can be a snappy dresser and be an utterly inferior worker with a lack of work ethic.  The smartest guys I’ve come across in the I.T. world tend not to be the most formal dressers and it makes no difference since they’re creating software code to make the world an easier place to live and work in.

 

My criterion boils down to this – if you see clients you should dress well.  If you’re in Sales or upper management or any other position that requires you to meet your customer base (or potential customer base), you should dress as though you care.  Also, formal settings like a courtroom dictate that professions like lawyers should respect the environment they are in.  Holding a public office should also mandate that you dress well when you are in session.  If you are a consultant/contractor and are working in your client’s office, you should always dress at least in business casual attire since you are representing another company unless the client specifically says you can dress more casual.

 

For most of us in the I.T. world we never see clients so it truly is OK to wear jeans and a nice shirt if that helps you to a more productive day.  I’ve been in companies where I had to wear a tie and I’ve been in places where a Marvin the Martian t-shirt is considered dress-up attire if it’s been washed.  As long as your jeans didn’t have holes where your underwear was showing, it was considered acceptable dress. 

 

This is where I think some people can abuse the system.  Unless you live in southern California or Florida or Bermuda, I think shorts, t-shirts and/or sandals are inappropriate.  I don’t mind tennis shoes but I also rarely ever wear mine to work.  Back when I worked in Chicago and wore jeans on casual Fridays, I always felt underdressed on the bus or El train.  Unlike the current city I live in, the rich and poor and middle class all use public transit.  During rush hour in Chicago, I was always surrounded by people in suits and other formal work attire.

 

Even in our relaxed work atmosphere, you’ll see me in khakis or jeans with a polo shirt in the warm months or a long sleeved, ironed collared shirt in the winter months.  On a rare occasion I might “get crazy” and wear a nice sweatshirt on a Friday. 

 

I don’t begrudge anyone who dresses uber-casual at work but I feel guilty if I do.  I finally succumbed to wearing jeans on a regular basis as of late.  I figured I might as well take advantage of it in case my next job, whenever and wherever that might be, would be more formal again.  Even with the jeans I still wear nice shoes though. 

 

As expected, guys are always the schlubbier dressers when it comes to casual wear.  Most women at least have a sense of fashion in the casual department, whereas most guys will wear the bare minimum it takes to be technically “dressed for public appearance”.  Bonus points are handed to those whose shirts aren’t completely wrinkled as though it were either a) hanging out in the dirty clothes hamper or b) hanging out in a pile of other clean clothes on the floor for a week.

 

For those of you who work at home and can sit around in your undies, I envy you.

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Re: Business casual    By JA3 on 2/28/2008 1:42 PM
Hey, I put on sweatshorts every morning as soon as I get up...

Re: Business casual    By James on 2/28/2008 2:04 PM
Addendum - for you male workers at home, if you can see your ballbag peeking out of your shorts when you sit down, you're dressed too casually. :)

Re: Business casual    By Syl on 2/29/2008 10:51 AM
One of my supervisors (the only one who's not an engineer type - and don't pretend you don't know what I mean... :^) wears un-ironed dress shirts. I don't mean just un-ironed, I mean fully tiny-wrinkled overall as if they were left in the dryer with towels until cold!<br><br><br>He has worn 'dress' shirts with the cardboard-insert wrinkled for-sale- folds still in them. Most every day, he pulls on this particular sweater, a worn to shit, no shape remaining, pilled-as-hell Fair Isle type (grey on bottom, blue with snow flakes on the shoulders). He looks like shit on a daily basis. The (electrical) engineers all dress better than he does, even the one with the 2 foot long grey hair wearing blue jeans every day looks better - at least he changes his clothes and they're clean. Hey um, buddy -- aren't those the same pair of black jeans you wore for the last three or four days? Just because they're black doesn't mean...oh never mind.... <br><br>Although I could wear them any and every day (woo hooo Production!), I still haven't worn jeans as of yet. I like the clothing contrast between him and me. One of many. He has no practical electronic knowledge and doesn't trust/understand when I tell him he's grounded when he touched that (handy) exposed conduit pipe that ends in three pronged outlet's electric box where the grounding wrist straps are attached. But that sweater....is.....awful. Should be burned. Without a ceremony.<br><br>

Re: Business casual    By Syl on 2/29/2008 10:54 AM
The principal engineer is absolutely anti-tie, too much time wearing a tie at Intel, I suppose.

Re: Business casual    By Muuurph on 2/29/2008 11:39 AM
Let me throw some different perspectives at ya. First, during my 10 + years in sales I went from suit to business casual almost exclusively. The only time I wore suit-tie was when I was dealing with board-level execs. There is a theory among the old-timers that the salesperson should dress one level above the person they're trying to sell to. I think this is bullshit as it sets up an artificial barrier from the get-go. If you're going to pretend to be a "partner" with a company you should be dressed similarly so that you can work together comfortably, and given that 95% of the companies no longer require ties, the sales guys shouldn't be in them either. My other argument for this was, after 5 minutes with a prospect/client, if you and your product are any good no one should be concerned with how you're dressed. This led to conflict internally, when I would go to the stuffy corporate NY offices of one of my past companies, where they thought we should be dressed to the nines all the time. We were supposed to be there for strategic meetings, how does wearing a tie instead of a polo shirt result in better planning? My experience has shown the opposite to be true if anything. Typically the suits had no effing clue how to plan for the future, just how to spout buzzwords and things they read in a book. While the more casually dressed showed more creativity and innovation<br><br>Now that I've made the transition over to professional services (i.e. production geek), I do chuckle at some co-worker's attire. I don't wear jeans to the office when I go in, except on Friday, as I'm just as comfortable in dockers as jeans for the most part (except when it's 0 outside. But since I've been working out of the house the majority of my time the last 8 years, I do enjoy the perks of wearing sweats or shorts. The key is to be comfortable while you're spending 8 hours (or more) in front of your master. BTW, if I was flexible enough so that I could see my ball bag while wearing shorts, I'd never get any work done, since I'd be able to do what many,many people have suggested I do over the years.

Re: Business casual    By sl on 3/1/2008 8:33 PM
When I was in sales these things were expected, but these days: Ties and hose - panty hose, that is - pretty much required in financial and banking industries only. PR people...maybe.

Re: Business casual    By Muuurph on 3/3/2008 2:46 PM
In all my years of sales I never wore panty hose. On the job anyway..

Re: Oh! so casual...    By Syl on 3/4/2008 9:40 AM
Ha! Well, if you're going to give it a try - shave your legs first, okay? Here's a dressing tip for you -- longer matted hair, visible under the layer of shiny woven (condom-tight!) fit, is not flattering. [On a personal note, the condom-tight fit comment is pure conjecture on my part...] ;^)


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