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More Atlanta traffic insanity
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| Posted by: James |
7/9/2008 4:41 PM |
I’m not convinced that the new stoplights they’ve put on the entrance ramps onto I-285 will ever be as effective as they supposedly are in other cities. A few weeks ago they turned them all on one day and it created some massive backups for the exits my coworkers take. 15 minute jaunts to the interstate were taking in excess of an hour all of a sudden and lawlessness abounded at these intersections. Add confusion, frustration, cluelessness and idiocy and you create the perfect recipe for a traffic disaster.
The lights I’m talking about are halfway down the on-ramp and I guess the idea is to meter traffic flowing onto the interstate. Here’s my issue with it though – it’s not removing the cars from the road, it’s just displacing them onto sidestreets that can’t handle the additional backups. It’s turning already-marginal drivers into line cutters, cutter-offers and the standard honking/finger combo. These back roads simply cannot take these large backups that are happening. Traffic in Atlanta is bad enough as is. Why create a scenario where you are doing the proverbial “robbing Peter to pay Paul”? Did someone in the Georgia legislature owe someone in GDOT a favor who in turn had a buddy who needed to install some excess stoplight inventory?
Not only that, but when you have to stop halfway down an entrance ramp, you lose all your momentum for merging into traffic if it’s not during stop-and-go rush hour. Maybe that’s not an issue for a sports car but an average car or truck might be merging onto the highway at a lower-than-safe speed.
Can anyone provide me with statistical info that proves this traffic light method is effective? Does it translate from city to city or is it on a case by case basis? I have noticed that a lot of these lights have at least been temporarily turned off, which to me is at least a partial admission that the experiment is a failure. At the very least they could have turned on a few ramps at a time and maybe try to phase the process in. But the fact remains there are certain streets that are overloaded as is and any additional traffic held on to them has far-reaching implications. All of a sudden a left turn lane stops dead in its tracks while waiting for each car to get a green light, which in turn blocks oncoming traffic once those left turn signals turn off. |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By Jason's Mom on
7/9/2008 5:17 PM |
| We used to call that a Denver merge...apparently Denver had stop signs on each on-ramp, so you had to come to a dead stop and then get up to merging speed. They've installed metering lights on some of the on-ramps along 101 here on the SF Peninsula. I can't figure out how it's helping... |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By The General on
7/9/2008 10:16 PM |
| The only place I've encountered ramp meters significantly is in Phoenix. I noticed the same things you did James, that the side streets get backed up. I can only guess that both cities have grown too fast and aren't capable of keeping the secondary roads up to needed capacity. Here's a WA state DOT page that extols the virtues of ramp meters with a few stats - http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Traffic/Congestion/rampmeters/ |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By Muuurph on
7/10/2008 12:13 AM |
| Those lights should only be red when traffic is jammed up, thus there shouldn't be a problem with getting up to speed, as by definition, the traffic will be stop and go. Maybe Atlanta was testing them, or they just never actully looked into how they're supposed to work. They also are usually more than halfway down the ramp, and only on long ramps. I still don't know how effective they are though. I've seen them in Chicago, Milwaukee, and Detroit and probably other cities that I can't remember now. I really don't remember any of those cities having problems with the traffic clogging up the side streets.<br><br>I actually went through 2 of those today, 1 in Chicago and 1 in Milwaukee with no incidents.<br><br>Coincidentally I just arrived in your craptastic, muggy city (I'm actually in the Roswelll Courtyard right now). There is some damn shitty road signage here. Blew right by the 400 N. exit... |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By Tim V. on
7/10/2008 8:33 AM |
| They tried this in Detroit probably on the order of 10-15 years ago by putting these same stoplights on the entrance ramps to I94. Needless to say, they haven't been truned on for quite sometime. Not sure why (I don't recall the huge traffic mess that you describe James), but they were either deemed useless, or a nuisance (or both) and subsequently shut down. |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By James on
7/10/2008 8:39 AM |
| Murph, you got here just in time for the really sticky stuff. If you squint hard enough, you can actually see the air - which might be good for ironing clothes or creating a tropical bird venue but isn't too fun on the lungs or the armpit section of your shirts. |
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Re: Atlanta traffic painful management |
By Syl on
7/10/2008 10:22 AM |
| They work - in my opinion - because they keep the traffic flowing in the right freeway lane, (once drivers have become...um...educated and more used to them) the 'exit ahead' lane is slower already, but they should be working only during heavy traffic times. They're all over the Bay Area and in Seattle as well, where growth in the last 10-15 years has made the single freeway rush hour start at 2:30 and last until 7 PM. They're also used on the Bay Bridge approach - only they call them the 'Metering lights" there and they're controlling *all* vehicle lanes immediately after the toll booths. .................................................................................................................................................................................................... You know James, maybe just MAYBE some of the terribly inconvenienced cars will get the hell off the - 11 lanes was it? - road and the drivers will get into carpools or transit. Right!? Pain comes before the gain. |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By James on
7/10/2008 10:39 AM |
| Actually Syl, I-285 is 12 lanes in certain areas. And zero trains. When this city hits critical mass, it's all gonna come tumbling down. Companies are already looking elsewhere due to losing so much employee productivity time sitting in traffic and companies that want to relocate her because of the business-friendly environment are looking elsewhere because of the quality of life issues. Hopefully I will be long gone before the shitstorm comes a-raining. |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By James's Boss on
7/10/2008 1:05 PM |
| F___ you slacker boy. Your not leaving me... After your 3rd cup of afternoon coffee and ice cream break, you can show your shitstorm footpussy to the elevator door. |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By James on
7/10/2008 1:15 PM |
| Sorry Boss, I'll get back to my veal fattening pen ASAP! |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By Boss on
7/10/2008 1:28 PM |
| And take that twinkie out of your... |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By Tim V. on
7/10/2008 3:15 PM |
| I love the way that terms like 'shitstorm' and 'footpussy' are so easily used so shortly after the f-word is purposely edited. Funny..... |
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Re: More Atlanta traffic insanity |
By James on
7/10/2008 3:17 PM |
| By the way, the term 'footpussy' comes from this link. http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f9f476b2bb |
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More of dad's bullshit bullying |
By The Boss' daughter on
7/10/2008 9:28 PM |
| HysTERical - thanks for that link! The guy sounds just your boss... |
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